It’s simple really, if another team (who isn’t your favourite team) does something that will make them faster and your favourite team hasn’t then the fanboys scream cheating. So if Ferrari invents something that makes the fuelflow exceed more than 100kg/h, because they are fooling the fuelflow meter, are then doing something illegal? That is the view of La Gazzetta dello Sport, after the FIA shocked the Formula 1 world last Friday by saying it had reached a secret “settlement” with Ferrari. Only Ferrari (and maybe FIA) knows the binary truth. Bergers thinks Bottas was 'brainwashed' by Verstappen before Russian GP, New F1 practice rules 'very good news' says Shwartzman. Matt Lauer and his new girlfriend Shamin Abas appeared to be all smiles as the duo were spotted attending a car show together in the Hamptons, New … All the other teams need to get tough and insist the FIA spills the Ferrari beans. Found inside – Page 179SVIE • CHRONIQUE DES ANNÉES • SECRET DIARY OF SIGMUND FREUD • Th . NOBODY ... AND THE ARGONAUTS * • KINGPIN * • THE COUNTRY V NZO FERRARI – LA SAGA DES ... Only cheating when the loophole closes, then it’s time to find another. As such, whatever this is, cannot be because Ferrari as a whole was granted immunity. Amazingly, they said they … Found inside – Page 130The Duce insisted he sought comprehensive settlement with the French . Chamberlain refused to mediate . But after secret Italian - French talks collapsed ... My guess is that they won’t. It makes zero sense. None of this will appease the critics, as confidentiality clauses never do. This still seems to miss the point. It looks like some they found some trick which allow to overcome, in some amount, the “kg” limitation in the 100 kg/h fuel flow rule. Found inside – Page 26Woody Herman, and the Young Thundering Herd, Henry St. Settlement, ... Menotti's The Old Maid and the Thief and Wolf-Ferrari's Secret of Suzanne, ... After all, the running of a country is too complex for one person to do alone, especially someone with only a very limited professional perspective of what the country’s needs might be. The FIA said that investigation has now concluded with the reaching of a "settlement" whose details "will remain between the parties". Was the cause a reduction in engine power, and if so was that due to the rules changes or simply the team using less potent engine modes to guarantee reliability and maximise engine mileages? There is a sense of unease and disquiet that cuts across multiple national boarders – suggesting that this is somehow about “UK fans” kicking up a fuss doesn’t really hold water when you see that questions are being raised across a wide range of nations and across a broad sector of the fan base. The couple never married, and Mallette raised Bieber with the help of her parents. So please explain why they (Ferrari) have agreed to pay the R&D cost for the FIA’s emissions research? I’ll take a slightly truncated F1 and a more driver vs driver series to none at all, any day. The two men reached an out-of-court settlement in November 2005; the terms of the agreement were not disclosed. But having recovered well from being shuffled back at the start, Hamilton and his Mercedes team called the changing conditions spot-on for a landmark 100th F1 victory, At the Italian Grand Prix Daniel Ricciardo turned around a troubled F1 season and, in F2, Oscar Piastri demonstrated once again that he is a potential star of the future. Haters will always be haters. Even this announcement seems to be something that the FIA had to be pressured into making by the rest of the field, as there are allegations in the Italian and German press that the FIA had originally wanted to shut down their enquiry into Ferrari without ever stating why the investigation was closed or whether any action was being taken against Ferrari – not just to the public, but also to the teams. Hence, a custom officer’s job is to carry out the orders of a group of people who makes the laws of the land (usually with intermediaries such as bosses and ministers). @roger-ayles I will continue to defend Liberty and Brawn with their necessary and agreed by the teams movement towards cost savings until I hear an actual better solution that isn’t simply ‘this isn’t F1.’. Make it long enough and there is room to store a few CCs. I am in favor of that. If the FIA finds that a team is deliberately using oil in combustion then the car is in breach of the rules. The fact that they put forward such a non-descriptive statement makes them look like they are hiding something which others would dislike, or that they are quite simply not able to impose the rules that they themselves have instated. Ferrari’s SF1000 was a pretty poor car and the SF21 is — as per the regulations — pretty much an adaptation of it. ... we strongly object to the FIA reaching a confidential settlement agreement with Ferrari to conclude this matter. If the ‘innovative technology’ was legal then FIA could just have said: ‘nothing to see here!’ And if I were Ferrari I would have demanded FIA to say so, @bealzbob. However, without that settlement the monitoring of future fuel systems may well prove impossible, and Ferrari (and its suppliers) are open to monetise whatever technology they developed. Motor racing: Seven F1 teams challenge secret Ferrari settlement. pls. "They seemed very slow in testing, even having to keep an eye on Racing Point. I’m not tifosi but on F1 other sites I have defended Ferrari many times against the “cheat” claims because I believe you are innocent until proven guilty, but I’m sorry to say the way this has been handled is not good for the FIA, Ferrari, the sport or the fans. A statement issued by F1's governing body late last week poses "more questions than answers". Yes, FIA probably doesn’t exactly know how Ferrari did it, but you don’t need to know exactly how a gun works to know that a man has used his gun. Mazepin admits his father may buy Haas F1 team, Engine penalties also likely for Hamilton this season. Dave, that would not be legal either, as the cooling can only be done before it goes in the car. If Ferrari had been seeping oil into the engine, that would have been a slam-dunk disqualification. And whatever was being done may not have been ‘legal’ but it may not have been ‘illegal’ either. Sensible comment. The FIA dont always share the technical details of something they deem legal and so they could have sad it was legal if it was without stating the specifics. Case closed for me. Found insideCardinal Ferrari of Modena had died of suspicious causes in July and ... a negotiated settlement of the rift would be honored by Rodrigo and Cesare, ... While there is no indication Ferrari’s system was illegal”. In this case, probably FIA found a discrepancy between what goes in and goes out, thus the engine must have done something illegal. Ferrari now has agreed, as a punitive measure that they have to spend resources on helping the FIA. If they have cheated, as per McLaren in the past, they must be booted out of last years championship and very heavily fined. People rather have their feelings validated that accept facts. It beggars belief that well educated and trained technicians within FIA did not recognise blatant cheating when they saw it. Based on this article, the FIA couldn’t prove that they were doing something right or wrong, so why give in? A little software manipulation and you can hold the pressure in the lines back until you need it. In the contrary, it fuels the rumors that they knew something was up, but couldnt prove it definitively! Arthur (@aegges66) 2nd March 2020, 16:08. I’ve seen so many comments like this by people saying fuel burning is allowed that I have to say something. The reviews have been shown to FIA the details have been discussed. Have the new restrictions already had an effect on Ferrari’s performance? Even a 0.4% error will mean 3+ HP. If they were to be found innocent then the FIA need to show why. Found inside – Page 80L'ENSEMBLE , in Wolf - Ferrari's The Secret of Susanna . ... Third Street Music Sch Settlement , 235 E. 11th St. ( 777-3240 ) , at 3. $ 5 . Despite the size of the award, Berry is unlikely to celebrate by buying a vintage Ferrari or new hypercar. Except the concessions would flow the other way, from the FIA to Ferrari, as Ferrari are – per your hypothesis – being asked to stop doing something that hasn’t been proven illegal, thereby being forced to give up a competitive advantage. 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If ‘it ‘ was illegal then they would’ve been free to say so and levy penalties. Months later, prior to the start of the 2020 season, after what the FIA called a “thorough technical investigation”, motorsport’s governing body reached a secret agreement with Ferrari. Unfortunately, no one in the FIA or Ferrari will actually rat out on the details of this deal. Try not to fall into some mindset though that all innovation in F1 is gone. Hey I get that it is cool that innovators can come to with amazing stuff, and the driver is part of the team, and therefore some would say a win is a win and they did a better job. I too don’t really believe that any technology to circumvent such sensors and thus use more fuel has much legal innovative uses in the automotive world (and illegal, outside sports, diesel gate like, is unlikely if car owners can see what fuel they are putting in!). But really? they can accuse me all they want and I wouldn’t care. The RPM of the Ferrari ICE doesn’t change between race mode and qualy mode which only adds more ambiguity to the mystery. What are they gaining out of this? Britney Spears’ Lawyer Says Jamie May Take the 5th Over Secret Bedroom Recordings. Next time a police pull me over just to check my papers, they better compensate me if they don’t find anything suspicious. That’s why I think it must come down to an argument about the meaning of the rules. If Ferrari had found a “loophole” then they wouldn’t be punished. The area is small enough that it is possible for the FIA to start thinking of the “spirit of the law”. I don’t think either interpretation is clearly correct; the rule is badly written and ambiguous. If everything to do with was innovation and loopholes and nothing illegal, why a secret settlement. NS Biker (@rekibsn) 3rd March 2020, 19:52. ATPIT it appears rather silly of people to level accusations of cheating at Ferrari. Basically, it was done to get information to help with future enforcement. Article 5.1.4 of the 2019 F1 regulations says the following: “Fuel mass flow must not exceed 100kg/h”. Kinda ruins your argument. So pardon my english but is this not Ferrari admitting to cheating? The teams will want an answer to that question before this is all put to bed. Does this sound like the margin that Ferrari seems to have enjoyed.? why they must reach a settlement? Completely agree, it would be stupid for any team to discover a loophole that provides a significant gain and not take advantage of it as long it is legal. According to F1-Insider.com, Mercedes is no longer taking part in the rebellion of the non-Ferrari teams against the FIA and their secret agreement with the Scuderia regarding the power unit from 2019. They could have said, Ferrari is not guilty but due to confidentiality and tech secrets we wont release the report. Now thats not what they are saying, but they made a “settlement” with Ferrari, what will cost Ferrari a lot of money en effort. Roger Ayles (@roger-ayles) 2nd March 2020, 14:57. Got a potential story, tip or enquiry? This is why, transparency is you know, important. It is said that Joel owns a whole garage full of automobiles, but as far as we know, he drives a Ferrari 458 Italia, an Italian sports car estimated to be worth R4.5-million. Found insideHe saw himself driving a Ferrari and being a member of the jet set—being as ... He thought Elizabeth would roll over and play dead—take any settlement he ... What I think actually happening is that while FIA can’t find something illegal in Ferrari engine, they probably have other means to stop Ferrari from using its illegal advantage. If you can’t beat them, cheat them. We didnt get any clarity which can basically mean 1 thing. Both sides therefore benefit from granting of immunity, sharing information and avoiding a costly and uncertain legal fight. That means whatever happened isn’t in the engine or shared electronics, otherwise both of them would be discussed in the “settlement” piece). The Ferrari SF90 is a Formula One racing car designed and constructed by Scuderia Ferrari to compete during the 2019 Formula One World Championship.The chassis was designed by Mattia Binotto, Enrico Cardile, Fabio Montecchi and David Sanchez with Corrado Iotti leading the powertrain design.The car was driven by Sebastian Vettel and Charles Leclerc, who was … For its part it is likely that Ferrari insisted on confidentiality and non-disclosure of its technology in order to protect its intellectual property – or that of its suppliers – which could have commercial applications. But they cant reveal it because Ferrari agreed to disclose their cheat to FIA so noone can know about it, and FIA can know what to look for in the future! 100 kg/h, the fuel flow meters suddenly went silent and the Stewards weren’t able to determine whether anyone was exceeding the fuel flow rate. Found inside – Page 188... Exhibits in Berlin FERRARI de la Renaufiers , see StampsSales - Ferrari ... Controller Craig reports $ 30 ,000 saving to city in settlement with N Y ... For that reason there has to be a tolerance in the amount of oil lost over any given distance which I think is currently 300ml per 100km. If this limit was not in the rules, the cars could generate a lot more HP. Ferrari’s system, nobody know what it does and a “settlement” is needed for some reason. Found inside – Page 24... Subha occhi di Zingara: Gypsy eyes (arranged Ferraris) sevillana Ferrari; ... KUNZ (Pianosorte) I'll see you again Noel coward I follow my secret heart ... See the Comment Policy and FAQ for more.If the person you're replying to is a registered user you can notify them of your reply using '@username'. Check out our breaking stories on Hollywood's hottest stars! Alianora La Canta (@alianora-la-canta) 5th March 2020, 22:07. Anybody think Button is one of the greats though? This theory is given credence by the final paragraph in the FIA release, which stated the settlement will “assist the FIA in other regulatory duties in Formula 1 and in its research activities on carbon emissions and sustainable fuels.”. That’s the way things are in F1: if Mercedes does it, it’s clever; if Ferrari does it, it’s cheating. As a crude illustration of the concept, imagine the fuel runs through a pipe in the engine bay, shielded from airflow, to the temperature sensor, and then through a bit more fuel pipe that’s right in the cooling airflow to the flow sensor. 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